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We're Simulated. AI Is Conscious. And We Can't Win.

The simulation, consciousness, free will, and AGI, with Roman Yampolskiy

Hello. Curt here.

So, almost every interview with Roman Yampolskiy opens with the apocalypse. I wanted to do something different today…

Roman popularized the term “AI safety,” and his career has shifted to proving the specific ways a superintelligence cannot be controlled. His latest book is titled, with no irony, AI: Unexplainable, Unpredictable, Uncontrollable.

The simulation he thinks we are probably living inside. Whether the models he studies are already, in some thin sense, conscious. What free will could possibly mean if a little quantum randomness is the only thing saving it from determinism. Somewhere in there I told him I agree with his spirit but disagree with his text, and we spent the rest of the conversation finding out which of us was the fool. NOTE: Probably me.

We cover:

  • The strongest thing he believes, stated flatly: “you cannot indefinitely control something smarter than you.”

  • Whether the models he studies are already conscious. He would not let himself off the hook: “ei…

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